"Working with TIBCO started with the technology because it’s quite easy to get started on a cloud-based service. It can have a very low cost of entry, and we really needed to validate early, and validate internally rather than externally. What it’s shown internally in the business is that you don’t have to do a six month project for a million dollars. You don’t have to do a lead cycle of two to three months. You can actually realize value when it’s ready to be realized, after maybe two or three weeks of work."